Okayplayer: Where do you go in NYC when you want to be outside without being outside?

Zee Ngema: I’d say people watching at a local cafe! Grab a seat by the window and guess who’s on their way to fire somebody or who shouldn’t have trusted that fart.”

Where do you go when you want to be around people but not with people?

Riverbank Park! It’s huuge and right on the Hudson River. During summer it attracts pretty large crowds but something about the water makes everyone chill out and so it’s easy to find a spot that will be respected!

What does your perfect NYC day look like?

I’d start the day with yoga, find a local coffee shop and probably nibble on something sweet and flakey. Then, with a charged phone, headphones, and cash, I’d walk around the city and just wander! I’d stop at random new restaurants and buy little one-of-a-kind knick-knacks made by an old man who has lived in New York for 50 years.

I’d most likely go to every Mister Softee truck to make eye contact with me, too. After all of that gluttony, I’d head uptown (to sit on the train for a hot minute and get my shit together) to Minton’s Playhouse in Harlem because there’s always something good going on and it gets sexy at night. Then shower + bed!